Evangelist Lee Stoneking shares his testimony of being raised from the dead by Jesus Christ to the United Nations General Assembly

Evangelist Lee Stoneking shares his testimony of being raised from the dead by Jesus Christ to the United Nations General Assembly in New York City. April 22, 2015.

Lee Stoneking, the father of the ‘Holy Magic Hair Doctrine*’ back from the dead. B”H! May he continue to seek Gd’s truth in scripture, searching the roots of his faith, what an impact he could have on all of Christendom, especially the Apostolic United Pentecostal UPC world by focusing his praise to the Creator and not to a man. Quoting Isaiah chapter 9:6-7 was one of our favorite proof texts as an Apostolic Christian. I was firmly convinced Isaiah 9:6 could not be speaking of no one in history other than Jesus until I took off my Jesus Glasses and looking up all the so called proof texts from their source, the Hebrew bible.

The last thing a Christian could imagine doing was to deny Jesus for surly the apostles said this would happen in, “the end of days there would be a falling away from the faith giving heed to deceiving spirits and the teachings of demons;”  No doubt Rev. Stoneking has a great love for Gd’s word and a hunger for truth. I have heard him say he would spend hours going back and forth over a verse from the New Testament in the Greek to come to a clearer understanding, if only he would take as much time on the Old Testament (Tanach) proof texts as the Greek understand of a New Testament passage, what a force of light he could be. Jesus as the ‘Prince of Peace’ could be a good starting point for any Christian wanting a deeper understanding of the Word of Gd.

When I became a Christian I was told to read Gd’s word daily, but was I told to start in the beginning of my bible? No. Like so many of my friends before we were told to start reading in the Book of John, (sound familiar) it is here my preconceived notions how Jesus fulfilled all the bible prophecies began, Jesus was the Jewish messiah (he even states that he IS messiah to the woman at the well) what more proof does one need…until I began looking up all those proof texts for myself, reading them in CONTEXT and asking; does this line up with what the Almighty says? Bear in mind nowhere does the New Testament claim to be “the Word of Gd”, the Tanach (the OLD Testament however does) Plus, you will not find one verse, one sentence, one time where the Lord Almighty, the Creator of us all is speaking in the New Testament. Reading Isaiah 9:6 in context with the chapters before and after shows clearly this was a prophecy of Gd, but it wasn’t about Jesus, it was fulfilled shortly after by a King whose name in fact meant “Mighty god”.  Hezekiah king of Judah, name means Hizkiyyahu – the mighty god.

Ask yourself, How could veneration of Jesus be considered idolatry? [3]

~~~Noach

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 Jesus is the ‘Prince of Peace’? 

First of all, this is a mistranslation. The words in the original Hebrew are, ‘sar shalom.’ The word ‘sar’ does not mean ‘prince,’ it means ‘ruler.’ Now, one might say that a ‘prince’ is a ‘ruler.’ However, the reason why the Christians choose the word ‘prince’ instead of the word ‘ruler’ in Christian translations is that the word ‘prince’ makes one think that the original verse is speaking of a ‘son of the king,’ which in the Christian mind alludes to Jesus whom they believe to have been the son of Gd, the King. However, the word is ‘ruler,’ and not ‘prince.’ ‘Prince’ in Hebrew is ‘nasee’ and not ‘sar.’ The Christian translators intentionally chose the English word ‘prince’ to lead the reader into thinking about Jesus.

In the Christian’s New Testament, we also find a quotation which certainly does not show Jesus to have been a ‘ruler’ or even a ‘prince of peace.’

Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. And a man’s foes shall be they of his own household. [Matthew 10:34-36]

How could anyone who said such a thing be considered a prince or ruler of peace? How could anyone who said such a thing have been the Messiah? We know that the true Messiah will bring an everlasting peace and, along with Elijah the Prophet, will bring families closer to each other and not further apart (see Isaiah 2:4, Micah 4:1-4, and Malachi 4:5). [4]

As a Rabbi recently said, For the Record; “There is one more false teaching that these men have propagated in the name of the Torah of my God. They have encouraged people to direct their hearts in worship of and in devotion to a man who walked God’s earth and breathed God’s air like the rest of us.

If there is any teaching that is contrary to the Torah with which we were entrusted it is this one.

My nation was called upon by God to serve as His witnesses (Isaiah 43:10). God taught us that there is none beside Him that is worthy of our worship and devotion (Deuteronomy4:35). Our core duty as a witness nation before God is to remain loyal to the truth that all created beings are equally subservient to the One Creator of all. Every facet of our existence, including our ability to love and to worship belongs to God and to God alone. It is my duty as a Jew to testify to you that your heart belongs to the One Almighty God who loved your heart into existence in the first place.”

Christain Tries To Convert Rabbi Tovia Singer On Air: A good example on understanding Isaiah 9:6

LSking‘Don’t, though, seek out miraculous life-changing events as your guide to God’s sacred truth. Look to the Bible alone for this eternal instruction. Once you have committed your life to truth in the God of Israel, joyously take part in the spiritual food it provides. Never permit spiritual expressions to become your barometer for truth. Your foundation must be the Jewish Scriptures alone.’ ~Rabbi Tovia Singer

‘But Look at How Believing in Jesus Changed My Life!’

Question:

Dear Rabbi Singer,

I am certain that the question will surface somewhere in this general commentary I am making. I hope you will bear with me until the question does arise.

For one who has been a Christian all his life, I find your commentaries very compelling and thought provoking, but, at times, dismaying, while there have always been questions in my mind inherent to matters of truth concerning the Gospels, and the remainder of the New Testament. The question is, as Pilate said it, What is truth? Everyone has a different version, and all claim their particular version to be the final word. Regarding your commentaries, I do not find anything that I would consider to be misleading or mean-spirited in your answers to your reader’s questions when you criticize Christianity, but it is obvious to me that you base practically your entire criticism on legalism. Jesus Christ had much to say about the legalism of the scribes and Pharisees in the context of how it applied to their religious worship. The one thing you seem to miss is that much of the teachings of Jesus related to the depth of the love of the individual towards God. I can understand how you can use legalism to apparently refute many of the claims of Christianity, so I believe my question is: How do you refute the almost unbelievable change in the character and personality of people after they are converted to Christ?

I have seen this again and again, so I believe my observations are, at least, reasonable. I have seen this change continue throughout lifetimes. What you seem to observe as a zeal to convert others is actually a zeal to help others, and of course to witness to that person for Christ. I am not aware of any pressure to convert. The basic premise is to show other people the change in your life and how it came about. As much as I am swayed by your legal criticism, I cannot deny the knowledge of Christ in my being, even when I sin. Surely, the God of all mankind would preempt a false religion, proclaimed in His name, which would lead millions from the true path and towards damnation. If this is not the case, then the existence of man on this world appears quite pointless.

Thanks for your time.

Answer:

I am certain that many readers will not fully grasp the importance of your main point because your letter touches on an intangible condition rooted in the heart of the believer. It would not be an overstatement to say that your thoughtful letter contains one of the most important questions that could be asked of me.

Ever since I began working to help Jews return to the Jewish faith, I have received numerous letters, and listened to many stories from people just like yourself. Their accounts are filled with personal anecdotes illustrating how their lives miraculously changed as a result of their newfound religion. Many of the accounts describe how their drug addiction and alcoholism inexplicably ceased.

Recently, I received a letter from a middle-aged Jewish woman who maintained that as a result of her conversion to Mormonism, her festering infection in her swollen leg was miraculously cured. Following a recent lecture, a young man vividly recalled how his plaguing depression had lifted soon after he embraced the Catholic Church.

For him, the euphoria that had now replaced his nagging bouts of depression bore testimony to the validity of the teachings of Roman Catholicism.

While I was speaking in Southern California a number of years ago, I met four young men who were members of Hare Krishna. It wasn’t a planned encounter; we just happened to strike up a conversation as we were crossing the same busy street in Los Angeles. To my utter shock, three of these lost souls were Jewish. As I listened attentively to the testimonials of these oddly dressed fellows, each of them enthusiastically described how their newfound religion had transformed their lives.

As they joyfully spoke of their joining this eastern sect, I could sense the elation and inner peace they experienced. They were certain that what they believed was true; it was apparent that they were more spiritual now than they had ever been in their former lives.

When considered individually, each of these moving accounts appear quite impressive. Once these remarkable testimonials are examined as part of a larger pattern, however, they present us with a serious theological problem.

Although each of these personal anecdotes appears to the novice as evidence of the validity of their newly acquired faith, the fact remains that these variant religions cannot all be valid. When it comes to spiritual experiences and miraculous occurrences, things get very messy.

The realm of faith would be very tidy if only one religion produced life-altering transformations and miraculous occurrences. To the dismay of the fervid believer, however, this may be the most disorganized arena of organized religion.

In fact, the life-changing experience that you describe in your letter is a phenomenon found among adherents of all religions. Followers of every religion claim an “almost unbelievable change in the character and personality,” regardless of the truth of the doctrines they preach. In essence, there is no relationship between spiritual transformation that occurs in the heart of the believer and the spiritual truth which he espouses.

Bear in mind, our planet is brimming with world religions such as Hinduism, Buddhism, and Islam, each of which boast many hundreds of millions of adherents. The multitudes of these devout believers, in their competing diverse faiths, all remarkably speak of the very same “character and personality” transformation that you describe within the context of your newfound religion – Christianity.

  • Yet, when their personal testimonials are scrutinized and considered, as they recount how their religious faith has transformed their lives, it seems as if they all somehow belong to the same religion their testimonials all pulsate with the experience of an encounter with the divine.

    According to your doctrinal barometer, however, billions of these devoted faithful are lost souls merely following a “false religion.” Realize, therefore, that their startling religious experiences cannot possibly speak of the validity of their beliefs.

    For example, Hinduism and Islam have radically different teachings on the nature of God, yet, how is it that Hindus, Christians, Mormons, Muslims and those that embrace New Age movements, all experience this profound religious conversion, which you describe?

    This question becomes particularly puzzling when we consider your implied assertion that spiritual transformation among the faithful will point us in the direction of spiritual truth.

  • Faith Healing claims have been made by many religions, and the sick have visited their shrines in hopes of recovery.

    I have visited Lourdes in France and Fatima in Portugal, healing shrines of the Christian Virgin Mary. I have also visited Epidaurus in Greece and Pergamum in Turkey, healing shrines of the pagan god Asklepios. The miraculous healings recorded in both places were remarkably the same. There are, for example, many crutches hanging in the grotto of Lourdes, mute witness to those who arrived lame and left whole. There are, however, no prosthetic limbs among them, no witnesses to paraplegics whose lost limbs were restored.

    — John Dominic Crossan

    John Dominic Crossan; Richard G. W atts (1999). Who is Jesus?: answers to your questions about the historical Jesus. Westminster John Knox Press. p. 64.

All of these religions cannot possibly be transmitting truth; nevertheless, each of them can ignite profound spiritual changes within the character and personality of their devoted masses.

This is the profound question that comes to mind: Why would God allow all religions, regardless of the theological untruths they espouse, to spark a spiritual passion within the heart of the believer? The Bible contains a record of many individuals and nations who possessed fervent devotion to their idolatry. Nonetheless, their spiritual adultery is condemned as an utter abomination, regardless of the spirituality and transformation they experienced.

Why would the Almighty permit religions whose fundamental teachings have no basis in truth to produce life-transforming experiences and miraculous occurrences in the lives of their devout followers?

The answer is found in the beginning of Deuteronomy, where the Torah addresses this dilemma with a more startling scenario than the anecdote you presented.

In Deuteronomy 13:1-2, the Bible raises the question of how to respond to a “prophet” who offers to show a miracle to support his message. How are we to respond if, in fact, the promised miracle comes to pass just as he predicted? Should we then follow this “prophet” even if he encourages us to worship other gods which our fathers did not know? “You must not listen to the words of that prophet or dreamer,” the Almighty emphatically declares. “I did not send him,” says the Lord.

“If a prophet or a dreamer of dreams arises among you and gives you a sign or a wonder, 2and the sign or the wonder comes true, concerning which he spoke to you, saying, ‘Let us go after other gods (whom you have not known) and let us serve them. You must not listen to that prophet or dreamer of dreams.’”

(Deuteronomy 13:1-2)

In the following verses, the Torah reveals why God allows prophets who teach unsavory doctrines to produce miraculous transformations:

The Lord your God is testing you to find out whether you love Him with all your heart and with all your soul. It is the Lord your God you must follow, and Him you must revere. Keep His commands and obey Him; serve Him and hold fast to Him.

(Deuteronomy 13:3-4)

In other words, your experience was a test from God. This is your choice in a world where freewill hangs in perfect balance. Will you worship the God of Israel alone, or turn to gods whom the nation of Israel has not known? If we lived in a world where only one religion could produce spirituality and miraculous life-altering experiences, the balance of freewill could not exist.

In the 18th chapter of I Kings, Elijah proposes a direct test of the powers of Baal and the Almighty. The people of Israel, 450 prophets of Baal, and 400 prophets of Asherah are summoned to Mount Carmel. Two altars are built, one for Baal and one for God. Wood is laid on both altars. Two oxen are slaughtered and cut into pieces; the pieces are laid on the wood. Elijah then invites the priests of Baal to pray for fire to light the sacrifice.

The Bible vividly recounts how they enthusiastically entreated Baal and prayed fervidly for a miracle from morning to noon without success. It seemed as though there was no doubt in the minds of these pagan worshipers that Baal would hear their supplications, intervene on their behalf, and consume their bullock with a heavenly fire. They even climbed on top of the altar and began to prance beside their sacrifice. Elijah ridicules their efforts.

When no heaven-sent flame appeared, a peculiar and gruesome spectacle followed. They responded by frantically cutting themselves with swords and lancets, adding their own blood to the sacrifice (such mutilation of the body was strictly forbidden in the Mosaic law).

These prophets of Baal were clearly enraptured and devoted to their gods. Regardless of their unyielding zeal for their idols, they were commanded to turn away from these abominations.

In fact, the prophet Jeremiah warns us that the spirituality gained from following false prophets and corrupt teachers may become so encompassing and overwhelming that one may begin to have dreams regarding these prophets. Jeremiah concludes,

…for thus says the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel, “Do not let your prophets and your diviners who are in your midst deceive you, nor listen to your dreams which you cause to be dreamed; for they prophesy falsely to you in My name. I have not sent them, says the Lord.”

(Jeremiah 29:8-9)

Jeremiah’s message is clear: If messages of false prophets so completely permeate you psyche, to the point that you are having dreams of these presumptuous messengers, you alone are responsible for these improper apparitions. God did not send them.

Furthermore, at the very end of your question, you suggest “the God of all mankind would preempt a false religion in His name, which would lead millions from the true path, and towards damnation.” This claim is unfounded.

If your assertion were accurate, why do masses of spiritually blind believers make such deplorable choices about their religious affiliations? Why didn’t God preempt false religions and foil their success? Why is Islam the fastest growing religion in the world when your Christianity is supposedly the only life-transforming truth? In essence, how could so many be so wrong about something so crucial as religion when, according to your reckoning, the Almighty would never “lead millions” away from His true path?

A careful reading of the Bible reveals that God never led mankind away from a pure and true path. The prophets of Israel were given the power to preach repentance to those who do not want to hear the message, and to warn of God’s wrath for disobedience.

The decision to indulge in sin is an individual decision alone, and it will forever remain man’s domain. Your Creator never removed freewill from your grasp, as the Torah declares,

See, I have set before you today life and good, death and evil, in that I command you today to love the Lord your God, to walk in His ways, and to keep His commandments, His statutes, and His judgments, that you may live and multiply; and the Lord your God will bless you in the land which you go to possess. If, though, your heart turns away so that you do not hear, and are drawn away, and worship other gods and serve them, I announce to you today that you shall surely perish; you shall not prolong your days in the land which you cross over the Jordan to go in and possess. I call heaven and earth as witnesses against you today, that I have set before you life and death, the blessing and the curse; therefore choose life, that both you and your descendants may live.

(Deuteronomy 30:15-19)

God permits man to become enraptured with false religions for the same reason He permits a married man to be attracted to women other than his wife. Freewill is within your grasp.

Virtue is only possible when sin is alluring. If alien religions were unappealing, there would be no merit for rejecting their blandishments. If this tender balance of freewill were ever injured or compromised, virtue would be impossible.

God has given all humans the gift of moral agency. Only the proper exercise of unfettered choice leads to the ultimate goal of returning to God’s presence. Having the choice to do right or wrong is vital, because God wants a society of a certain type —those who are devoted to His eternal laws. The belief in freewill is axiomatic in Jewish thought, and is closely linked with the concept of reward and punishment, based on the Torah itself:

“I [God][/God] have set before you life and death, blessing and curse: therefore choose life.”

(Deuteronomy 30:19)

Don’t, though, seek out miraculous life-changing events as your guide to God’s sacred truth. Look to the Bible alone for this eternal instruction. Once you have committed your life to truth in the God of Israel, joyously take part in the spiritual food it provides. Never permit spiritual expressions to become your barometer for truth. Your foundation must be the Jewish Scriptures alone. [2]

Best wishes for a happy and healthy New Year.

Very sincerely yours,

Rabbi Tovia Singer

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Blinded by the lights – Baited by miracles

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It’s almost inevitable that the christian will use miracles to back up his belief in Jesus. The pages of the new testament are filled with many miracles, be it healings, or exorcisms, transfigurations or food multiplication. In fact, miracles are supposed to be amongst the most significant things about their belief in Jesus, the resurrection being the most significant. Jesus is said to have told people to believe him because of his “works” i.e., his miracles. Even their man, Paul, said that if it wasn’t for the resurrection, he and his followers would be the most miserable of men.

Now this article isn’t a rebuttal to miracles. There’s nothing wrong with a miracle. But it questions the purpose of miracles.

I mean, think about it. If someone stands up and says “one of the reasons to believe in Jesus is because of the miracles that he did” or “the resurrection proves that Jesus was messiah or the son of God or God Himself” or “the virgin birth ensured his sinlessness” then a person is well within their rights to question if the miracle really has anything to do with what is claimed.

For example, let’s take the resurrection. Let’s pretend that Jesus really came alive after he was dead. Let’s pretend that certified doctors of the day checked his vitals and gave certification that this man was as dead as a dodo, and then after a few days, lo and behold, the dude is up and about walking around. Whether he claims God did it or he did it himself because he is supposedly God, the question has to be whether this resurrection validates anything.

First question: does the resurrection prove that he is messiah? Well, if we go through the Jewish Bible and look for passages that are clearly about the future promised anointed Davidic king, is one of his clear criterias that he should have a personal resurrection? The answer has to be no. There is not one passages that contextually is only referring to the future promised Davidic king which states that he must rise from the dead.

[ASIDE: I know people use songs like Psalm 16 to claim he did, but there is not one verse in that song which overtly says that it is specifically referring to the messiah. It’s just a song of and about the writer.]

So seeing that there is no verse that states that we will know that someone is the “messiah” if they should rise from the dead, then it is fair to conclude that the resurrection would prove nothing about his or his followers’ messiah claim.

Another question: does the resurrection prove that he was the son of God (whatever that’s supposed to mean)? Again we must ask whether the Jewish Bible states that we will know that someone is the son of God by the fact that that individual would rise from the grave. Once again, the answer is no. It is best to use God’s standards as shown in his Law and through his prophets to test someone’s claim, and the Jewish Bible tradition is what we have so … Once again, the resurrection doesn’t prove that a person is God’s son.

OK, one more question: would the resurrection prove that he is God Himself? Straight off the bat, the answer has to be no! Why? Because if we again use the standard of the Jewish Bible, God says that he lives forever and doesn’t change. So he can’t die in order to raise himself from the dead. But we can still ask the question: is it stated in the Jewish Bible that the way we can know a man is God is if he has a personal resurrection? Again, the answer is no.

So what exactly does the resurrection prove if we use God’s word in the Jewish Bible as a standard? Absolutely nothing, except that the guy can do great tricks. It doesn’t make him good or righteous, just a great magician. In fact, what is most notable is that the Jewish Bible doesn’t make miracle-making a criteria for accepting someone as messiah!

In fact the Jewish Bible invalidates using miracles alone as a sign that someone from God. The Torah states that even false prophets and magicians do miracles and signs. So miracles in and of themselves prove nothing.

Now I can sense what some may say. “But David, Jesus was already teaching and preaching with such authority so this miracle just adds to that.” Actually, whether Jesus was teaching and preaching correctly depends an awful lot on a previous knowledge of the Jewish Bible, which many christians throughout all of the history of the christian church lacked before they accepted the claims of Jesus. They even make much of the fact that Jesus recruited simple and unlearned fishermen who many times didn’t even understand Jesus’ claims a significant amount of times (which should make you question other things about their claims after he died).

It is in this ignorance that Jesus’ miracles are flaunted and advertised. The flashing lights of miracles which are meant to catch a person’s attention seem to detract from the actual substance of what is said to the point where people mainly see the miracles as if they mean something in and of themselves.

This is the main difference between the new testament and the Jewish Bible. Although the Jewish Bible has some miracles, the standard is obedience and knowledge of God’s law first. And that is what I love about Torah. For all the wondrous miracles, it’s not about the miracles. It’s about the content, the standard. Where the immature get caught up in the flashing lights of miracles, the Torah demands a standard and tells us to grow up and think about things, beyond those bright lights, and whether there is true substance.

Christians get caught up in resurrections and healings and transfigurations and forsake the standard. “Oh look, that dude did a big trick, said words that make sense to me, he must be God or the messiah.” That’s the thinking of idolatrous pagans who forsake thought and the standards of Torah, God’s law, for self-gratification.

OK, let’s me bring this all together. The resurrection of Jesus, whether it happened or not, proved nothing about Jesus’ messiah claim or his followers’ claim that he was divine. Miracles on a whole have nothing to do with whether someone’s messiah or not. Ignorance of Torah teachings and the criteria of what is a messiah and the use of miracles have been used to fool people into accepting Jesus, and once one devotes oneself to him it is hard to break out. Basically people are blinded by the lights and then hooked onto devotion. As a friend of mine, Terry Hayes said:

They are called fishers of men – you ever fished with a spoon a type of spinner bait? It is shinny and it spins in the water reflecting the light to attract the fish by its shinny reflection and when the fish bites, it has a hook on the end to snag the fish into the fisherman’s snare – its all trickery.

Then you have a popper, it makes a popping sound in the water. The sound attracts the fish and snares it. Then you have the baits that look like real fish but is artificial – you see the fisher of men throws their nets, and baits fish with artificial lures to snare and trick the fish into the fisherman’s well. This is totally what xtians do they cast their nets, make noises and uses flashy trickery or out right imitate the real so they can lure the unlearned and unsuspected into their boat. They are truly fisherman. [1]

Sources:

[1] https://leavingjesus.wordpress.com/2014/02/17/blinded-by-the-lights-baited-by-miracles/

[2] https://outreachjudaism.org/believing-in-jesus-changed-my-life/

[3] How could veneration of Jesus be considered idolatry? 

[4]  ISAIAH 9:6-7  http://www.whatjewsbelieve.org/prooftext6is96.html

*Holy Hair (Holy Magic Hair Doctrine)  https://youtu.be/Gn3y96lDrFw

Deuteronomy 24:16 where it explicitly says that no one can die for the sins of another: The whole chapter of Ezekiel 18 expands on and clarifies this principle.

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4 Responses to Evangelist Lee Stoneking shares his testimony of being raised from the dead by Jesus Christ to the United Nations General Assembly

  1. I agree that Jesus isn’t God. While he certainly is A god, and a mighty one, he is not “The Almighty God”. Satan is a god too, Moses is a god, the judges are gods, and a few million others, but as in the case with Jesus, None of them are God Almighty.

    There is a lot of pagan doctrines in churches that clouds the understanding of the Bible. By clouds I mean absolutely brickwalling.

    But is it not said, only very few will find the way?

    Feel free to read :
    https://lastminutetalent.wordpress.com/2015/04/24/is-jesus-god/

  2. LarryB says:

    He is no different than the global warming crowd. Outrageous claims with no proof.

  3. Jeff says:

    In Zecharia 12:10, God says, “and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son”. Jesus is God manifest in the flesh. He is the Almighty.

    To LarryB:
    Who are you to judge this man? He does have proof. Read his book about this miracle.

    • Jeff, the noted Christian commentator S. R. Driver took exception to your common
      Christian interpretation of Zechariah 12:10, stating in his commentary:

      “The context points plainly to some historical event in the prophet’s own time, for
      which the people would eventually feel that sorrow here described.”
      Driver apparently recognized that the passage describes an historical event
      from Zechariah’s era. He actually went further and suggested that some of
      the events described in this chapter suit the situation that existed during the
      time of the Maccabees.

      From the Jewish perspective, two classes of interpretations of the passage that
      contains the verse Zechariah 12:10 have been proposed. One has it as an
      historical Biblical event from the prophet’s own era, while the other considers it a
      prophecy of an event that will take place at some future time just prior to the
      commencement of the messianic era.

      Christian missionaries use the verse Zechariah 12:10 as a so-called “proof text” to
      support their claim that the crucifixion of Jesus was foretold in the Hebrew Bible.
      Although the passage is problematic for this purpose even in the variety of its
      mistranslated versions that appear in most Christian Bibles, a slight modification in
      the manner in which it is applied in one of the Gospels was designed to “fix” this
      difficulty. However, a rigorous analysis of this passage and the entire chapter
      demonstrates that such imputed Christological relevance is absurd.

      Zechariah 12:10 I will pour upon the house of David and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit of grace and supplications. They will look toward Me because of
      those whom they have stabbed, they will mourn over him as one
      mourns over an only [child], and be embittered over him like the
      embitterment over a [deceased] firstborn.

      Christian missionaries claim that this Zechariah 12:10 prophesies the crucifixion of
      Jesus, and point to the “Passion” accounts in the New Testament as its fulfillment.
      The Jewish interpretations of Zechariah 12:10 fall into two general categories. The
      first and predominant view among the Jewish commentators is that the passage
      refers to an historical event; however, the opinions vary concerning which event is
      alluded to. The other view is that the passage is messianic, and that it alludes to the
      war of Gog & Magog, in which the hero, ף ֵן־יוֹס ֶבּ ַיח ִשׁ ָמ, Messiah son of Joseph, will
      be killed, and the mourning within the Jewish community following his death.
      The analysis of this passage, which focused on Hebrew grammar and consistency
      with both syntax and overall context, demonstrates that the common Christian
      interpretation of this verse is incompatible with the Hebrew text. The primary
      problem with the Christian interpretation is that it is based on mistranslated and
      altered texts in the Christian Bible. These attempts to infuse Christological
      significance into the passage actually resulted in irreconcilable issues vis-à-vis both
      the Hebrew text and the historical record.
      Conclusion: Zechariah 12:10 is not a prophecy about the crucifixion of Jesus.

      When I was a Christian the moment the light came on for me was seeing the Christian fabricated prophecies, misquotations and misapplications of passages from the Hebrew bible such as Psalms 22:16
      For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet. (KJV)

      Verses the Hebrew (use your Strongs if you own one) For dogs have encompassed me; a company of evil-doers have inclosed me; like a lion, they are at my hands and my feet.

      A Hebrew – English Bible a +
      Peace,

      ~Noach

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